2-10-0 Kreigsloks buharli bilgi / steam info

[ktuzunalp]

2-10-0 Kreigsloks buharlinin TCDD 'deki numarasini ariyorum 

I need the TCDD number of 2-10-0 Kreigsloks steam locomotive

Kamil
 

[ktuzunalp]

Erkut bey, çok teşekkürler !

Ben "Kreigsloks" a aşina değildim, şimdi konu oturmuş oldu. Sanırım Ankara buharlı müzedeki 56 504'de aynı lokomotif.

Selamlar,
Kamil. 

[iceman]

56504 orjinalliğini kaybetti.Eski İzmir makinesiydi (Aynı zamanda ustam Hüseyin Örgücülerin makinesiydi).56500 lükler Br52 lerin karşılığı hemde 1:1.İlk 10 makine (56501-56510) kanatlıdır.Henschell yapımı ve TCDD ye sıfır km. olarak teslim edilmiş.Diğer 43 makine (56511-56553) kanatsızdır.Doğu Almanya dan kullanılmış olarak gelmişler.Muhtelif üreticiler var (Borsig,MBA,BMAG ve WLF)

[ktuzunalp]

Bilgiler için teşekkürler Jimmy,

Selamlar,
Kamil

[Jean-Patrick]

Like said above, Kriegsloks usually refers to the 56500 locos:
http://www.trainsofturkey.com/w/pmwiki.php/Steam/56501

But that is not all. I always say that Turkey is the land of Kriegsloks:
The 45150, 45170 and 46200 are all kriegsloks, albeit not German.
The 56700 (BR44ük) can be considered as kriegsloks as well.

This is not all! Their are also the kriegsloks from WW1: 44000, 44100 & 33041.

Jean-Patrick

[ktuzunalp]

Hi Jean-Patrick,

Thank you for the information.

I also wonder about the name "Kriegslok". Is it used for certain type of locomotives, or a different meaning ?

I searched from the internet but could not obtain an exact answer.

Kamil.   

[Melih]

"Kreigslok" is a word in two parts : "Kreig" = War, "Lok" = Locomotive.

It is a word used to describe the locomotives built during the Second World War in Germany.

For more information please follow this link: Wikipedia Br52 also see similar information in German Wikipedia Kreigslokomotive. For on-line translations between German and English (and other languages) I find the following page very useful: ImTranslator

Also an extra bit of information: "Br" (Baureihe) means "Class".

I hope this helps. 

[ktuzunalp]

My Langtolang German-Turkish dictionary sunk !

From now and on, I will use ImTranslator.

Thanks.
Kamil

[Jean-Patrick]

Kriegsloks (indeed war locomotives) were built on military orders, and based on military requirements which are different from civilian requirements.

The famous Br52, but also the 8F and the S160 have all similar underlying requirements:
- reduced size and weight to run on most (if not all) lines of Europe
- can be quickly converted to vacuum braking, driving on the right, ... The Br52 were designed to be quickly converted to Russian gauge and many served there.
- very simple design enabling army style maintenance by personnel with little knowledge and tools.
- standard design, easy to assemble, easy to ship. An amazing 7000 Br52s were built in 1942/1945 (its an average rate of 10 per day). The S160 were "only" 2200.

Of course, these locos were not meant for high performance or durability. The fact that so many survived very late is a complete surprise.

Jean-Patrick

[ktuzunalp]

I think simple machines survive longer, the Jeep or the Land Rover, for example.

Thanks,
Kamil

[ktuzunalp]

Anadolu'da Kreigsloks Br 52 filmi (Taner Duran gönderdi):
Kreigsloks Br 52 in Anatolia / the movie:

Kamil

[abdusta]

kamil bey,erkut bey

aşka geldim br52 yi nunbergden aldıgımız buhar yapma duzenekleri ile bu aksam çalıştırıp biraz keyifle seyretme arzusu
belirdi icimde arkayada biraz gondol ve kapalı kasa vagonları küplörldimmi tamamdır..

kimbilir 1-2 karede ben çekerim

saygılar a.usta

[avsalı]

ÇOK GÜZEL BİR FİLM BENDE BUHARLI FİLMİ KOYMUŞTUM O BR 52 İ MİLMİYORUM AMA GÖZDEN KAÇTI GALİBA

http://dosyam.net/?id=5nlnf0

[ktuzunalp]

Ömer bey, sizinki de muhteşem, hem ranforlu, hem de dumanları/buharları verişleri süper,  nasıl olduysa atlamışız bunu.   

Selamlar,
Kamil.